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  1. #1 Default [GUIDE] Full STR rogue/warlock (update) + Turbo rogue/lock. 

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    1.Why this build?
    2.Which weapon to use?
    3.Gear select.
    4.How to lvl fastest with rogue?
    5.Which skills to use?
    6.PVE tactics.
    7.PVP tactics.
    8.CTF,GvG,Fortress tactics.

    1.Why this build?
    Some people says that rogue have pretty good damage, so he don't need warlock, but that sounds stupid, because it's never too bad to have more damage and own sun users,even with cleric sub rogue still dieing fast as shit so IMO lock are better and not so boring.

    2. Which weapon to use?
    Dagger - this weapon will be your main on pvp. Keep it with good + if you spend a lot of time at pvp.
    Xbow - your main weapon of pve, because of his long range mobs cant reach you. Keep good + if you spend a lot of time at pve. Anyway both weapons can be used on pve/pvp well.
    Warlock rod - this weapon will be used only for debuffing enemy. You dont need to + it. Just keep at your lvl and add INT.


    3.Gear select.
    You have 2 choices: light armor or robe.
    Light armor - it gives you 10% more speed and use 10% less MP, light armor good for rogues, but its not better than robe for rogue/warlock.
    Robe - this is your choice, because with robe you will move faster 20% and use less MP 20%.
    This is very usefull, because warlock skills requires alot of MP, so somethimes you can run out of MP. Thats why robe. Also robes mag def greater than light armor, but lesser phy def.

    4.How to lvl fastest with rogue?
    In pve I recommend xbow, because he have bolts which helps kill mobs from long range. The fastest way to grind with shity armor is with crossbow extreme. He makes your def low, but you will have strong dmg.
    From party mobs you will fall easy, so I recommend to attack only general/champion/giant. No party mobs its just not worth. On giants you have to use vigors to survive. Also go grind on passive mobs, because aggro will kick your ass.

    5.Which skills to use?
    I think that from rogue skills you need to have all of them, because they looks all usefull. Just use your imagination here.
    From warlock skills you need:

    Raze series:
    physical raze - reduce enemy phy. Def.
    Combat raze - reduce enemy phy & mag. Dmg.
    Courage raze - reduce enemy phy & mag. Def.

    Blood series:
    bloody trap - it's like bomb which explode's in 20 sec row.
    Death trap - same as bloody trap,AoE, 100% success.

    Soul pressure series:
    Daze - stuns your enemy.
    Wrath Daze - same as daze,AoE.

    Crue spell series:
    vampire touch - absorbs target's HP by small amount and curses him by desease status which is very usefull.
    vampire kiss - same as touch,AoE.
    advanced reflect - 35% chance to reflect 95% of dmg.

    Dim Haze series:
    slumber - sleep status for your target for 20s.
    Wheel blind - makes 4s pot delay bigger (it's just killing china xP).
    Deep slumber - same as sleep,AoE.
    Rocovery bind - same as wheel blind,AoE.

    6.Pve tactics.
    Not much to say about this. Just use rogue. Also you can use warlock on pt mobs/party champion/giant/party giant, you can survive them with good gear. Tip vs them is: vampire touch>physical raze>combat raze>courage raze>bloody trap>slumber then Dagger desperate or crossbow extreme and hit enemy. There is bug bloody trap + slumber and you can hit how much you can. Enemy won't wake up until bloody trap explodes. When debuffs ends, start it over again.

    7.PvP tactic.
    IMO this is best pvp build, because of his insane dmg and crits.
    Tips: use vampire touch/kiss to debuff enemy for desease status which makes your debuffs 100% success> daze>physical raze>combat raze (optional if you can survive some of enemy hits) >courage raze>bloody trap>slumber>wheel blind, then change to dagger, activate DD (Dagger desperate) and hit with prick. If your opponent will survive, use any other dagger skill to finish him.
    Well you know that it's hard to win vs xxx/cler with warlock, but some of warlock skills still works: stun, wheel blind,bleed. You can simply just stun, put wheel blind on target, change weapon, buff DD/xbow extreme and kill him, but there is problem with warrior/cleric, because he's insane strong. So do that, stun>wheel blind, change to xbow (dont activate xbow extreme), keep hitting him with blast shot until you KD oponent. After you KD, change to dagger>DD>mortal wounds. He will hardly survive.
    ICE/FIRE walls - you know that china have those wall on which debuff won't work, so move farther from them and they will not reach you. Change to xbow>extreme> and keep attacking from long range. Now he have 2 choices, die or cancel wall .(you can use advanced reflect in any the se tips).

    8. In ctf/gvg/fortress
    it's not worth to use warlock, because you can die when more than one player attacking you, but when 3 opponents starting to attack you, you can activate Deep slumber, put them under the sleep and kick their asses.
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    created by:jadzia an wantux

    Rogue/warlock videos

    Rogue/warlock on troy by:Night_Watch
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMVaVE07kGc

    rogue/warlock extreme pvp.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDcRiUOWdfM
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    Rogue/Warlock is also a very good build(Overkill). Because he can de-buff a mob, pull out crossbow and attack from long range. Oh, and also you forgot to put about the rogues parts in parties.
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    I will update when I will have more time ^^ and add some pics/vids
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    Thx mate ^^
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    Thanx to Autumn&Jadzia, that was what I have been looking for.
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    A little bit updated , btw did this forum need guides like this ?
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    Nice guide.
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    I've been a lot working on it ^^"
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    OFT: Autumn, your picture of the Rogue doing the Mole Quest brings back bad memmories for me.
    I remember when I was lvl 65 grinding at Moles with my Glaiver and every room was filled with Xbows 1-shotting all the mobs xD

    OT: Very nice guide. Kinda makes me want to switch my Warrior/Cleric to Warrior/Warlock xD

    ...meh, maybe not ;]
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    Sorry, without a cleric sub class you will die and you rely on your longer range with an XBow for suprise and killing.. With warlock, you have no buffs, no healing, no res, no bless, no RD, you need to get close to your enemy and as a rogue you already are a weak target compared to warriors..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shael View Post
    Sorry, without a cleric sub class you will die and you rely on your longer range with an XBow for suprise and killing.. With warlock, you have no buffs, no healing, no res, no bless, no RD, you need to get close to your enemy and as a rogue you already are a weak target compared to warriors..
    by puting on enemy debuffs u will survive because of combat raze debuff and bloody trap+ slumber+vigor , anyway if u fighting Giant u will kill him extremely fast.
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    Good explanation in simple text . Congratulations...
    In simple words Complex terms... Good JOBS..
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    As requested before, a video of me pvping.
    79 rogue warlock vs 85 force bower.
    pacific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oni View Post
    As requested before, a video of me pvping.
    79 rogue warlock vs 85 force bower.
    pacific.
    Thx mate i will watch later.
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    update... Added turbo rogue/lock build. I'm so fcking tired after writing at night...
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    That "turbo" build isnīt worth of it.
    Difference between 80 and 90 rogue mastery is bigger than u think and with 80 lock, ur debuffs sux even with disease on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryboun View Post
    That "turbo" build isnīt worth of it.
    Difference between 80 and 90 rogue mastery is bigger than u think and with 80 lock, ur debuffs sux even with disease on.
    if you pvp a lot it worth , because with main warlock your rogue loose not much dmg , but yeah it's your choise.
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    I was warrior/cleric then warrior/rogue and now Iīm rogue/warlock.
    Trust me, I donīt miss shield crush (trash with ur warrior mastery) so much
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