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    Hello guys, I would like to know the % of Healing to use in PVP Full STR Glaive at a level 120 with 90k HP, many tell me they do not use GRAI N's, only POTS same, so I use:

    HP POT: 90% HP
    VIGOT GRAIN: 76% HP
    HP GRAIN: 56% HP

    and not use VIGOR POT
    I use only or POT also use GRAIN? which the% correct?
    I have FB 13D LEGEND +3 / +5 set

    Thx so much!
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    Hp grains are for euro chars. those are useless for you.

    You need to use HP Pots + MP Pots + Vigors.

    In case u open snow in pvp you might want to use MP Grains instead of MP pots.

    But HP Grains are useless for china chars.
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    I'd say use grains since with normal pots you wont pot the 30k hp you can pot with a grain in 3 seconds. Spamming normal pots does not increase the healing per time, it only heals longer.

    There was some youtoube video from some korean guy who actually tested it years ago, but i cant find it. Also it might be time for someone to test this out again. I remember that he definatly said that a mixture of pots+grains heals best for him. But now the HP is so high that grains are better i think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flawle55s View Post
    Hp grains are for euro chars. those are useless for you.

    You need to use HP Pots + MP Pots + Vigors.

    In case u open snow in pvp you might want to use MP Grains instead of MP pots.

    But HP Grains are useless for china chars.
    This, sir, absolutely makes no sense
    Why use MP grains but not HP grains?
    He is STR lol
    Hp grains would heal him around 22,5k and MP maybe 10k
    Hp pots can never heal that much, so ofcourse use HP grains
    MP grains are basically useless as MP pots heal about the same for a STR unless they're noobs and use snow, then it might be usefull
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    hp and mp pots are made for what lv70? and still used now at lv120...
    they never upgraded those pots for a long time, it barely heal anything even for pure str char.

    Pots heal more based on the amount of str/int on your char, so hp pots does heal more if you have more str, but it still nothing compared to grain.
    hp grain beat hp pots over 4 seconds.

    Pots has 3 wave of healing:
    Cast a pots, and recast is 1.5s later, but the thing you might not realize is that it's 3x healing wave
    After casting it, you gain hp, than a bit later you gain another wave of hp, than the 3rd wave of hp.

    Now if you spam it every 1.5s, you actually are cancelling some wave of hp and it not healing as efficiently.
    I believe there was even a bug if you cast vigor pots followed from mp pots it cancelled the vigor pots healing wave and you only had mp, so no hp healing over it.
    The healing wave were lower than the grain.

    A pure str can use mp pots and a pure int can use hp pots, in general that closer, but you need to use grain on your primary.

    I could take out all the stats, I did look packet wise what the healing wave exact value was in the past
    i cast potion, and it drop in a log all the value of each healing wave.

    will do tomorrow night, i'm not home right now.
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    Anybody test it? I use now HP Pot for 98% HP, and no use HP Grain, Only use Vigor Grain in 77% HP, that is good, but I know that this can better...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandrigos View Post
    Anybody test it? I use now HP Pot for 98% HP, and no use HP Grain, Only use Vigor Grain in 77% HP, that is good, but I know that this can better...
    yea i tested it and it is like i said it regardless of what everyone else says . if you dont belive me just test it for urself before listening to mine or anybody else opinion.

    HP Recovery Grains (Small) 25% - are for euro chars. Because normal HP pot of euro chars got 13 sec delay. The Hp grain got 5 sec. Ofc it heals more.

    Now when it comes to chin chars. u better stick to HP pots because it has a lower cooldown than the hp grains (being used on chin chars)
    in the end u ll get healed more by hp pots (if you are CHIN) (2 hp pots will heal u within the time that a hp grain will wait for cooldown to pass). So its a 2:1 pot use for chin chars, u use 2 hp pots and in the same time u can only use 1 hp grain. (repeating myself: ONLY FOR CHIN CHARS) those 2 hp pots will heal u more than the hp grain.

    So Hp grains for euro chars and hp pots for chin chars.

    Before listening to anymore bla bla bla test it for urself u ll get to the same conclusion.
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    fine, i'll re-test it, actually, now that you mention it, I've mainly tested it on euro...
    But you sound so sure, that I take it you must be right.
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